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R1's Ad Rant

Posted by R1665 - June 15th, 2012


I was going to save this for the first of the month in order to get back on a steady update schedule, but there's no sense in letting a good rant go stale.

You know what really gets under my skin? These random Flash ads people put in their movies and games.

I can't stand these damn things. It seems now like every other crudely-built cookie-cutter flash being submitted to the portal exists solely to shove these unnecessary skidmarks of e-capitalism down our throats. Earlier today, I ran across one such (exceptionally) offending flash and gave it the zero bomb it deserved. I had seen another twenty advertisement-saturated flashes before it today, but this one drew my ire in that it displayed ads after every significant act. Loading the flash? Long advertisement. Win the level? Here's an advertisement. Lose? Here's another advertisement before you hit the retry button. Bear in mind that each level could be won or lost in less than ten seconds. One or two ads could slide, but thirty? SHEEEEEEEIT...

I really do wish that this shit would go away for normal users. Now, I can understand how Newgrounds would want or need ads on individual pages within itself. This site is expensive and it costs money to keep it running. I get that. What I don't get is why every dipshit who can draw a stick figure or code a dress-up game needs to churn out garbage to turn a few cents profit.

The idea of users having the option to include ads has some theoretical merit - an original content creator could be compensated for their diligence and creativity with a share of the profits earned from views. Makes sense on paper. The reality, however, is that the focus easily shifts from making exceptional works that can draw in some well-deserved money to making mass-produced garbage for no other purpose than to make those few cents before losing any and all relevancy. People still play Infectionator. Mario's Random ATV/defense/avoider/dressup/jigsaw/spot-the-diff erence game hasn't been clicked since it dropped off the portal. Both have advertisements, but only the former is worth the time spent viewing them.

I would really like someone to tell me exactly how much ad revenue is generated by your average shovelware horseshit game before it drops off the portal with its 500-600 total views. Is it really worth the loss of personal integrity that comes from forcing your audience to sit through a spiel about whole-grain cereals or this weeks new free online MMO game that nobody ever plays? I really do honestly want to know.

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Now, I don't feel that all advertising is bad and I do distinguish between random flash ads and actual sponsorship. Every so often, I'll catch a YouTube advertisement for a movie trailer or something else that I actually think is interesting. Sometimes, I'll see that the official sponsor of something I like specializes in the kind of items I want to see or buy. For example, I might see a movie that was sponsored by Machinima or something, and then decide to visit because, hey, it might have more of what I was already looking for. They are directly sponsoring a production that I would find appealing because both the production and the products being offered by the sponsor appeal to the same demographic. It's targeted advertising and it's the only kind of advertising that works. Direct, relevant sponsorship can be honorable and bring about great things.

That said, who the FUCK is hanging out on this site and coming to the sudden realization that what they need to make their lives complete is a Swiffer Wet Jet? Are they suddenly going to rise from their computer chairs and go get the new $5.99 Philly Cheesesteak Melt from Arby's?

Anyway, rant complete. Discuss.

R1665


Comments

What's to discuss... you're 100% correct. We must've seen the same game the other day. After the in-game ad, I zero bombed it as well. I think the real problem is the b/p crowd that votes 2 on everything regardless of content, just to get their stats up.
I've been here 11 years and NG (and Flash itself) ain't what it used to be. Such is life.

Yeah, this is partly why I just don't care about newgrounds anymore. I only ever come here for a few different series, including yours. I haven't even really been trying to fix my problem with flash because I don't really care about this place anymore.

i have seen these kinds of games before.
MOST games that have ads are awful by default for me.
strictly because most of them are 1 level, uninspired, abominations.
but for something like what Egoraptor makes, which gets like 100,000s of views,
i can understand why he puts ads in. certainly i would.
and i am not really a big fan of his, but he is the best example i can use.

Yeah i understand what you mean. Some people should already know its not worth it. i put ads on mine, but i have a legitimate reason. Im poor, Ive been posting for years, i actually try to make a good flash.
Hell, i even use google adsense.

I can sit through an ad so long as I know that the video will be worth it.

The difference between your work and the work I'm bitching and moaning about is that your single ad is an afterthought. You aren't churning out crap just to shove in a bunch of ads and make a few cents.

The way I see it, the number of tolerable ads is directly proportional to the awesomeness the containing video achieves. If a video or game is good, I don't mind being shown an ad. However, if one's movie or game has dozens of ads, it had be the kind of presentation that blasts me out of my computer chair and forces me to give high praise upon my return to consciousness.

R1665

I generally think of these things as a necessary evil. Advertisements pay newgounds, and the money helps make the websites possible.

For the site? Sure.

For the users? WAAAAAAAAY more harm than good.

R1665

This is kinda late but i have a question about episode 2. So when Johnny killed gambit at the end was it personal or was it business?

Little bit of both, perhaps?

R1665

Well, just be glad that Tom and co. just put a ban on shovelware. Truth is, I think advertisements shouldn't be intrusive to the point where it gets annoying.

said the same thing...but some one post a comment that and I quote"stop your bitching people make ads to make money" and yes I did get pissed

Random question: Will Strider Hiryu make an appearance? Or Strider Hien?

I can neither confirm nor deny any future involvement from any such individuals...

R1665

"I can neither confirm nor deny any future involvement from any such individuals..."
Vintage R1665!
but, dooood, if this ball keeps rolling.
your laser fortress with a pack of resident evil dogs and sharks
may take some damage, by yours truly.

So when is the next update coming?

Rap is gonna be handling the next official update, so keep an eye on his page.

R1665

So when can we exspect a new movie

When it's finished...

R1665

How are things coming on the flash?
Is CE Rap doing ok?

Still grinding along, progress moving ever forward, and all that jazz.

Rap will be handling the next official update within the next few days.

R1665

Are you dead?