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Out with the old

Posted by R1665 - August 2nd, 2013


R1665: “I should probably start off by saying that NINE MONTHS after Hurricane Sandy, CE-RAP is FINALLY getting back on his feet. We have reliable communication now and it's only a matter of time before we get rolling again. Evidently, there are still THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of people still suffering the aftermath of that disaster and disaster relief is a "last in, first out" business model. If you don't live in New York and you think that everything should be rebuilt and fine by now, you'd be wrong.

CE-Rap: “For those nine months that followed the storm, I lived in a state sponsored shelter for Sandy victims, just trying to garner new funds so that I could leave it and find a new place to live. “

R1665: “Well, Rap finally has his own place, a decent computer, and the will to get moving as soon as he is able. That's the first thing that must be said. However, the reason for this particular news post is another subject .

In a move that confused some people who just happened to show up in that six-hour window, I made a news post in which I made what some might consider a startling revelation. It involved a professional separation from a then-unheard-from Rap. I deleted it because six hours after posting it, I got the "WOO HOO I'M FINALLY FREE!" message from him.

Nevertheless, I do feel now that I should just go ahead and drop the big news without further ado - The VG Exiles series is officially cancelled. Now, before you guys start building that guillotine, please allow me to explain why this was necessary and how this will ultimately turn out for the best.

When I first got into sprite animation and created the VG Exiles I had two goals:

1.) Get good at making sprite videos.
2.) Make a badass Stryker fight.

As of VGE3, I had officially accomplished everything I had set out to do. I never really had any long-term story planning other than "make fights with characters I like and then build a story around it to justify it". I don't plan that far ahead. I'm not that kind of guy.

The draw for the rest of the series would've been ‘characters you rarely see getting a chance to shine.’ That's all well and good, but it's very limited. It's just looking to the past and not the future. It's the future that interests us now.”

CE-Rap: “Now, to clarify, the VG Exiles was initially planned to be a reboot. The story we wanted to tell required us to create new canon. Things like the Acolyte betrayal and the ambush were going to be largely expanded upon because they would’ve been shown from the beginning, as opposed to having the characters talking about it as a past event. THAT led to a much larger plot, deeper character development, and so on."

R1665: “We rebooted the series (which some of you might remember me having mentioned in the past), and that reboot eventually led to ‘why don't we just make something new?’ We have the skill. We have the drive."

CE-Rap: “This direction was finalized last summer, and throughout the fall of 2012, all the preparations were falling into place… that is until Thunder cu-----*ahem* until Super Storm Sandy left me a fingernail away from homelessness. Communications were shot, my resources were lost, my tools were destroyed--EVERYTHING had to be put on hold. I shot a line to R1 every chance I got but we only talked 2-3 times in all that time. He tried to keep the dream alive for a time, even releasing a new FAILTALITY video under the moniker of our new group, RHINO REX STUDIOS---> where all of our new content will be released from. Since it’s release, communications fell apart again, and Riggie was losing hope that I’d ever be in a place to do the things we had planned---hence the awkward deleted post that some of you might not have even seen. In actuality, I moved out of that shelter about 3 weeks ago. The VERY DAY Riggie posted that he was ending everything—was the VERY DAY I contacted him, saying that I was finally free from the shelter."

R1665: “Awkward. Well, "Thomas Jane at the end of The Mist" moment aside, that post had to go. ”

CE-Rap: “I live in a pretty tiny and VERY modest apartment for the time being, with plans to move into a more adequate living space once enough time and money has been saved. That is slated to happen end of this year/early next year. In the meantime, Riggie gave me his old computer and bought a new monitor for it, allowing me the chance to get back in the game. And now that things are finally—FINALLY—settled down, I’m in a much better place to GET back in the game.

At long last, we have the resources to do the things we had been planning on for months. I’m a creature of evolution, and I’m all about challenging myself to be better in everything I do. I felt like if we were gonna go THIS hard, we need to go above and beyond what’s been done before. We need to use our own talents instead of rehashing the tools of others.”

R1665: “We now have the resources. Why not use those to take the craft to the next level? Anybody can take these existing characters and make them shine. Making NEW ones? THAT'S a challenge. THAT'S the next level. THAT'S what we want to do.”

CE-Rap: “And that’s what we’re GONNA do. Mind you, this isn’t some longwinded smug statement. This is US letting all of YOU know what’s been on both our minds for the past year and a half. You’d have known this sooner if the storm never happened.

VG Exiles--THE SERIES--is dead. An all new, all different, bigger, and better series has taken its place.More news on that front soon.”

R1665: “So, before you condemn me for letting go of a series you might have loved, stick around and see what we have in the pipeline now. We're betting that you'll be glad you did...”

CE-Rap: “Let me take a quick moment here to thank the handful of you that cared enough to leave messages for me here and on DA showing your support. The last few months have been one of the most grueling experiences of my life, and finally having the opportunity to move on from it is a welcome relief.”

-Rig and Rap


Comments

Every time I walk out my door, I see what that hurricane did. Only the high visibility businesses near the shore got the attention, everyone else has to go screaming for help.

Anyway, I'm sorry you're not continuing the series, but hope something better can grow in its place. Glad you guys are still tight and pooling your resources. May fortune favor your boldness!

Glad you are back on your feet Rap!! I know how it is to be on the brink of homelessness.

Good to hear from you again, CE-Rap!

And R1665, as long as I hear a "Open-Wide Mother fucker" sound again, I'll be happy. xD

Well, shame to see the cancellation of VG Exiles, really wanted to see more of it.

I saw the original post. Glad to hear that CE-Rap is doing okay. As long as he's able to support himself he should probably take his time first. Oh and your new series is most probably gonna kick ass. Most especially Smoothuser's ass.

But your new characters, who's gonna make them? Sprites I mean

We got a few guys we're looking at. Can't name any names right now, though.

R1665

Good to hear that things are looking up.

However, after hearing about the cancellation of the VGE, I had begun construction of a rather large guillotine, and training a secret cult of mystic assassins to abduct you for the express purpose of using said rather large guillotine. Things were going great; the guillotine was nearing completion, and the ritual used to infuse my followers with all sorts of eldritch power was a resounding success*

*(Some idiot broke the summoning circle, and at least 16 people were gruesomely murdered, and subsequently devoured by a rather hungry demon. Don't worry, that cowardly bastard had his soul ripped out, and placed in the body of a newt. And contrary to popular belief, he will not "get better")

But after reading this post? I look back at all the preparation, and I think "That's a bit unreasonable. After all, he's promising something better in exchange, and he hasn't let me down so far", effectively killing my righteous fury.

Dammit.

Just... dammit!

I hope you know that I had to break into a secret government facility to find the ancient tome so I could summon that demon. Also, managing a cult is not only a major pain in the ass, but expensive.

But yeah, good that things are looking up, and I look forward to your work.

Last time I tried to summon a demon, It was three feet tall and did nothing but sing country music songs. I didn't kill anybody, but I quickly learned that it wasn't housebroken.

By the time he was done pissing he was two feet tall.

R1665

That's good to hear things are going great for you Rap. You know you have fans here who miss ya bro, and that's good R1 about the VG project, but man I have to say what's the deal with the collaboration?
Is that still on? So much time has been wasted dealing with Smooth when the project could be in the making. I hope the rest of the team players still have the motivation to come through with it.

Yes, the collab is still on. Deadine for submissions is still October. Keep an eye on your email inbox for some new developments on the collab. Coming soon.

R1665

So what games are you looking to use sprites from this time around

Ryukang is not payimg attention.

Or TL:DR

CE Rap, I am glad your getting back on your feet, and I think the Newground community can finally welcome home a long lost friend with open arms.

I respect both you as artists, and both of you deserve praise of your high commitment and integrity for your art. Your the best at what you do, and you deserve that title.

Unfortunately, this news deals a fatal blow to my heart. I have been one of the ones waiting months with baited breath, all for not. While your reasons are plausible, I cannot truly become excited or hopeful for this project. I see very long delays in episodes, and the critical part of what using pre-existing characters gave is lost and will have to be made up. As much as I want to troll you guys, and be that kind who vents his fury and anger, I can understand the desire to advance. But this is where I as a fan part ways with you. I do not foresee anything you can do that will lure me back to this new project, because even though the skills are sharp and I expect high quality, the feeling of nostalgia and story are ripped from the basis. Who are these people? Why do I care? Why is this battle so intense? Why is this episode worth me waiting months in the production line? What is truly memorable about this flash movie? Why is it different and worth my time?

I am sorry. Although I send you off with my blessings, I leave with you the torn fandom I once held for you. I do not foresee you pulling anything out of your bag of tricks to win me back, but who knows. I will say it may be possible to hit a home run and me eat my words, but its far fetched. I will say this, in doing this move you should realize that your show is under that much more pressure to perform. If you want something original, you need to devote 200% to create the entire world around it, and plan for the story. Just two OC sprites going at it is boring, and stick men fighting covers that genre. So if your doing this, know you have to come out with more than just meeting a challenge you have for yourself.

Anyway, again I am glad to hear CE-Rap is safe and back to somewhat normal, and wish you luck in your endeavor. We shall probably not meet again, though maybe the stars have a different fate for us. I expect 100% from this new project, and if it lacks, the community will let you know. This fan, however, is walking away with a sense of disappointment.

I don't blame you for feeling that way. We've all been disappointed at some time or another by the cancellation of something we enjoyed. If anything, it's the norm and not the exception.

Initially, I had reservations about taking this course. Rap would definitely confirm this with a grin. Over time, however, I came to realize that this is what must be done to reach our full potential. As displeased and disappointed as you are, know that I was, at one point, ten times so. This was not just some random series that I enjoyed watching on the internet. It was a series that I had created. It was my contribution to the world. It was what I did.

If someone as invested as me could see the possibilities of this new path, then I would hope that those displeased fans will be able to see it too once the results start hitting the portal. In the meantime, all I can really say is "Hope to see you again".

R1665

I've seen certain sprite artists on deviantART and then there are the Shades of Manhattan guys. I dunno who it is but knowing you, you will pick one of the best.

With a great script writer, sharp artist, and an unknown spriter, I can safely assume this will be awesome. Unlike DragonHero8 just below me

Please use johnny cage again and make him brutal

I am a bit disappointed that Exiles is cancelled. I eagerly awaited each episode. I at first I checked every week to find out what was next, but after the delays of episode 3 and the delays after I stopped checking in hoping if I forget maybe the wait won't be so bad. I understand you couldn't help the delays and that's cool, things happen. I will miss this series. This sprite series is the only one I have ever followed. I was really stoked for idea of a Jill Valentine fight or more Talbain and Stryker fights or even all of them against one really dangerous enemy would have been awesome. I'll tell you one thing you have used pretty all my favorite fighters. I loved that you used all the fighters that usually don't get a moment to shine like the shotos and ninjas usually do. Well whatever you do, I bet it's going to be awesome and I am most likely will be there to see it

So is the title going to remain the same or is it going to be different?

It's going to be different. No more "VG Exiles".

R1665

Rock on, R&R, and keep us posted! :)

Another BIG update in the coming weeks. Stay frosty.

--CE-Rap

I see where you guys are coming from. I had to cancel production on countless Flash and Music projects due to being under-skilled, inept planning (I'm more of an improv guy), or not going in the desired direction.

I hope what's new coming is going to be awesome, cause some people are going to go raving after hearing this. I will miss Exiles, and lord knows that I would love a official VG Exiles by video game companies, but alas, that dream is slim. Although that just screams flash game somewhere. Any case, I'm glad that Rap is alright and that you are not just being lazy or something and have something in mind. I have to ask though, I know you said the series was axed, but is there a actual slim chance of a reboot, or is it permanently buried?

The plan of going in a new series direction came after the idea for the reboot. I'm afraid the reboot idea has been axed, as well.

Besides, reboots in general have a horrible track record for success.

R1665

So, what about Pan-Jump? Are you going to use that to keep us updated on the new series, or did that die along with the VGE series?

Pan-Jump has gotta go, too. At least, we have to change the name or something.

"Pan-Jump" is a reference to the VG Exiles. We'll need something more all-inclusive.

R1665

HEY, EVERYONE! MOAR SMOOTHIE STOMPING!:

http://r1665.newgrounds.com/news/post/846536

(please disregard if neither smoothuser nor lulz interests you...)

R1665

lol I'm sorry, but I thought this was all and done with my friend. But I have to say, funny touch on youtube video R1665. You crack me up! XD

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